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Big brother Tirek by Ghost-Peacock Big brother Tirek by Ghost-Peacock
I have no clue which one is older but I'm settling on Tirek. I had a headcanon once upon a book I'm never gonna finish that minatours/humanoid creatures come from a far off land. I like to think Tirek and Scorpan were like royal brothers there and set out to find more land...by tyranny.

Yay for making villains sappy.
Eh, maybe they did love each other at one point in their lives. Who knows. Who needs love when you have free ranged pony/spirit of chaos magic?
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:iconfantasygerard2000:
Fantasygerard2000 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Student Artist
*plays frozen's 'we know better'*
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Ghost-Peacock Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Student General Artist
Tirek: "Scorpan! *knocks on door* Do you wanna steal some magiiiiic~!?"
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HeavenShipperArtist Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love that!
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
"Why am I a centaur, and he's a gargoyle if we're brothers?" 
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
I believed the 'brother' thing is not suppose to be familial, but more like blood-brothers. 
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
"You're from a fairy-tale world, you expect a little thing like genetics to stop that?"
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:iconbrutalityinc:
BrutalityInc Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
I believed the 'brother' thing is not suppose to be familial, but more like blood-brothers.
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
That could work...
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
It's the only reason that makes sense. You can't breed two biologically distinct off-springs. Just like you can't ultimately can't naturally breed hybrids like hippogriffs from griffons and horses, even in a fantasy world (it's like trying to breed hybrids with lions and zebras)
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
"It's the only reason that makes sense. "

In a FANTASY setting? 
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014
If fantasy lifeforms behave to some extents like that of terrestrial lifeforms (and they do, since they're based on terrestrial lifeforms), then some natural laws of the real world, as discovered by empirical science, would still apply even in a fantasy world, such as animals can only produce offsprings of the same species, with the same morphology, and that only infertile hybrid offsprings could be produced between two species within the same genus, and only when the two species are still sufficiently related to each other genetically. 

I understand your views on this, but I think Tirek and Scorpan being siblings through blood-brotherhood makes more sense than them being biologically related.
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Trooper924 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014
Well, personally I do think that Tirek and Scorpan are biologically related. I'm choosing to believe that their parents had something similar to how in Greek mythology Typhon and Echidna were able to produce monstrous children of a variety of species going.

And while I am alright with science appearing in a fantasy setting, I do think it's acceptable to bend the rules where it's needed.
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014
Having a fantasy setting doesn't preclude SOME kind of common sense in-universe. "It was magic" only goes so far until suspension of disbelief is broken.
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
Then again, as Pinkie would say...

"Good points and all, and really A for research and everything, but...well, fairy-tale world. Not EVERYTHING has to make sense."
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
"Since when do YOU use that as a justification for the mechanics of a universe?"
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
"Since...well, never. I just find it amusing that YOU are the one raising a logical objection. And since I'm never one to waste an opportunity, I decided that I would be the one smugly tossing out dismissive meta-justifications and hand-waves when someone raises a common-sense point for once." 

*Turns to the sky and shouts:* "IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK, PINKIE! IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK!!!"

*Normal speech, To Tirek:* "So you see, this was indirect reciprocation, with a side of smug self-satisfaction." 
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
Nice to know you hold me in such regard. 
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SomeRandomMinion Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014
Wasn't trying to be mean, and that was at least a month ago.
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beaglebuddy100 Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
awwwww :'( way to make my heart feel sad.
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GUILLE832 Featured By Owner May 15, 2014
Tirek looks like the kind of old brother who would try to gain his parents attention over his brother
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Ghost-Peacock Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Student General Artist
I like to think they're half brothers. Maybe their father was just as power crazy as his son and was like, "fend for yourselves". I have no idea who was the favorite myself.
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GUILLE832 Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Like Celestia and Luna then. Just kidding :trollface:
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JerraianKing Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
People will probably just only assume I'm being sappy or stupid... probably the latter, but I think that they really did love each other as good brothers should before.  That, maybe even if a faint (and I DO mean faint) chance, maybe there could be some way to get them back together again?
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Ghost-Peacock Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Student General Artist
Where is Scorpan? Do they ever explain?
Is he dead or is he somewhere else in this world?
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JerraianKing Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
In the season finale, from the VERY close listening I heard especially during the story, it said that once Scorpan alerted the ponies of his wrongdoing brother he went back to his home in Tartarus.  I believe maybe they just might actually be part of a royal lineage, and also... a recent personal thought of mine, I feel as if Scorpan is the MLP version of Pazuzu, the demon that helped humans--- er, ponies  ^^;

I can imagine that he's no doubt alive as well, probably when we trudged back to Tartarus I can only imagine he was in tears that he had to do that to his bigger brother (to me Tirek was definitely the bigger brother, metaphorically and literally).  I bet you he never wanted to do that, maybe even wished his brother would just humble and let the senseless anger go and realize that friendship was truly something amazing, not just "a sign of weakness".

That's why I pity Tirek, and feel sorry for his brother Scorpan  ;w;
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jisowthefleetway Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd like to point out a hole in your answer, it was said that Scorpan went hoe but nowhere did it say his home was in Tartarus, Tirek was just banished the and Scorpan went home, but it was not said were there home is
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JerraianKing Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You're right actually  ^^;  Gosh I must've not paid attention there... but you're correct!

This is fact we don't know where Scorpan's home is, we don't know if it IS in Tartarus or some other exotic place in Equestria.  But it makes it more interesting to know where his home is!
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jisowthefleetway Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
season 5 maybe
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werecass Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Student Artist
Tirek is so cute.
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